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Victoria Nuland, then U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, addressed questions about Ukrainian biolabs during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on March 8, 2022. The exchange came amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Russian propaganda claims that the U.S. was operating "bioweapons labs" there. Nuland's statements were in response to a question from Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who asked if Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons. Her response has been widely misinterpreted as an "admission" of bioweapons, but in context, she was referring to biological research facilities focused on public health and biosecurity, not weapons, and expressed concern that Russia might seize them to stage false-flag incidents or release pathogens.5 Pinocchio's๐คฅ๐คฅ๐คฅ๐คฅ๐คฅ
The Exact Quote and Context
During the hearing, the following exchange occurred (from the official transcript and video footage):
- Sen. Rubio: "Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?"
- Nuland: "Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach."
Rubio then asked about the consequences if Russia took control and used the materials for a false-flag chemical or biological attack, to which Nuland replied: "I am going to ask Under Secretary Nuland to address whether Ukraine has biological weapons," but clarified the U.S. concern was about Russia potentially staging an incident to blame Ukraine, as they had done in Syria.
Deep Dive: What Nuland Was Referring To
- The Facilities in Question: The "biological research facilities" are part of a U.S.-Ukraine biosecurity partnership under the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program (started in 2005), aimed at securing and dismantling Soviet-era pathogens to prevent outbreaks or terrorism. These are not bioweapons labs but public health and veterinary facilities for monitoring diseases like COVID, anthrax, or swine flu. There are about 26 such labs in Ukraine (not all U.S.-funded), similar to CDC or WHO facilities worldwide.
- U.S. Role: The U.S. has provided technical assistance (~$200 million over 20 years) for lab upgrades, training, and security, not research on weapons. This is part of global efforts to comply with the Biological Weapons Convention.
- Why Protection from Russia?: Nuland's concern was that Russian forces might capture the labs and release pathogens (intentionally or accidentally) or use them for propaganda to claim "bioweapons" and justify the invasion. This was echoed by the U.S. State Department and UN, warning of Russian false-flag risks. Russia has a history of chemical weapons use (e.g., Syria), adding credibility to the worry.
How It's Been Misinterpreted
Nuland's statement has been twisted by Russian state media and conspiracy outlets (e.g., Infowars, QAnon-linked sites) to claim "U.S. bioweapons labs in Ukraine." This narrative was used to justify the invasion and has been debunked by the U.S., Ukraine, and the UN as disinformation. The labs are for peaceful biosafety (e.g., disease surveillance), not weapons. No evidence of bioweapons has emerged, and inspections (e.g., under BWC) confirm compliance.
In the context of the Super Golden TOE, this situation highlights "information warfare" as entropy-increasing distortions in the aether—mainstream linear narratives vs. epic complex awareness. o7
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